what's it all about?
being an asshole to people?
reproducing?
Is there really one? I'm having trouble truly finding a 'meaning' to life. So far it just seems to be to experience everything.
life is the means to end all means. it is therefore infinitely meaningful.
mcriddleshits?
On October 10, 2004, I was sitting with my laptop at a cafe in New York City trying to avoid writing a paper for my first-year humanities class. In a moment of despair, I typed "What is the meaning of life?" into an online forum. Fifty thousand hits and two thousand answers later . . .
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Interesting. I'll have to check that out!
having fun.
Gettin' crunk.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaa-uh.
What?
Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaa-uh.
What?
Doing something to make life a little bit better for fellow human beings.(?)
> life is the means to end all means. it is therefore infinitely meaningful.
> mcriddleshits?
if not in life then in what? life is every thing meaningful.
it sounds like arun would suicide on the island:
http://www.thinktankforums.com/thread.php?thread_id=244
> mcriddleshits?
if not in life then in what? life is every thing meaningful.
it sounds like arun would suicide on the island:
http://www.thinktankforums.com/thread.php?thread_id=244
if not in life, then maybe in death. if not in life or death, then maybe in neither. life is therefore not everything meaningful.
what are the possibilities of your individual meaning in your death, and what can you do to create meaning?
martyrdom?
one cannot teach how to create. that's asking the impossible. such must be discovered individually.
one cannot teach how to create. that's asking the impossible. such must be discovered individually.
Martyrdom doesn't create meaning outside of life, just for a short time of your life, for the world to observe. the act is still done in life. what remains existing is the act, but what can you do to create meaning while dead? life contains everything meaningful.
What is this business about teaching to create? I'm just asking where the meaning comes from if not during life.
What is this business about teaching to create? I'm just asking where the meaning comes from if not during life.
it can come from any number of places, including those that are still living (society), or God, or your dead self in the afterlife. you're acting like you punched up a syllogism, when in fact it was simply your opinion.
What afterlife? what god? and then all we have left is the living where the meaning lies. There may be meaning to people who believe in afterlife or god, but only to those living, this is still where the meaning is.
Going back to the meaning of life, how isn't it infinitely meaningful? all of the meaning lies in the lives we have, and not outside of the lives we have.
It's not just my opinion there are reasons that it's true, unless you can prove it wrong, other than pointing out that it's what I am considering now, which is obvious.
My life has meaning, and all the meaning in my life will only be contained in my life. It is all the meaning I will ever experience and the meaning is infinitely greater than myself alone. I guess I could just say I'm a being in the world.
Going back to the meaning of life, how isn't it infinitely meaningful? all of the meaning lies in the lives we have, and not outside of the lives we have.
It's not just my opinion there are reasons that it's true, unless you can prove it wrong, other than pointing out that it's what I am considering now, which is obvious.
My life has meaning, and all the meaning in my life will only be contained in my life. It is all the meaning I will ever experience and the meaning is infinitely greater than myself alone. I guess I could just say I'm a being in the world.
I agree with DannyP. Don't think of life of having one set meaning, but that being alive is meaning in itself. Unless you are a working stiff, then you are just as dead as anyone 6 feet under
> What afterlife? what god?
whatever one the individual in question believes in, naturally.
> There may be meaning to people who believe in afterlife or god, but only to those living, this is still where the meaning is.
you don't know that.
> Going back to the meaning of life, how isn't it infinitely meaningful? all of the meaning lies in the lives we have, and not outside of the lives we have.
you don't know that, either. you are making huge assumptions. instead, assume God exists. then life is trivial and the afterlife is infinitely meaningful, with respect to duration of time.
> It's not just my opinion there are reasons that it's true, unless you can prove it wrong, other than pointing out that it's what I am considering now, which is obvious.
it should be obvious that you can't prove any of this to be true or false. you're acting like it must all be true unless i can prove it false. but you can't prove it true and your logic is lacking. everything you say rests on an array of assumptions.
> My life has meaning, and all the meaning in my life will only be contained in my life.
and that's your own belief system and value set. other people have differing opinions.
> I guess I could just say I'm a being in the world.
a being-in-the-world can easily believe that there is more meaning in God or the afterworldly than in-the-world as such.
whatever one the individual in question believes in, naturally.
> There may be meaning to people who believe in afterlife or god, but only to those living, this is still where the meaning is.
you don't know that.
> Going back to the meaning of life, how isn't it infinitely meaningful? all of the meaning lies in the lives we have, and not outside of the lives we have.
you don't know that, either. you are making huge assumptions. instead, assume God exists. then life is trivial and the afterlife is infinitely meaningful, with respect to duration of time.
> It's not just my opinion there are reasons that it's true, unless you can prove it wrong, other than pointing out that it's what I am considering now, which is obvious.
it should be obvious that you can't prove any of this to be true or false. you're acting like it must all be true unless i can prove it false. but you can't prove it true and your logic is lacking. everything you say rests on an array of assumptions.
> My life has meaning, and all the meaning in my life will only be contained in my life.
and that's your own belief system and value set. other people have differing opinions.
> I guess I could just say I'm a being in the world.
a being-in-the-world can easily believe that there is more meaning in God or the afterworldly than in-the-world as such.
> whatever one the individual in question believes in, naturally.
Maybe the true meaning is in death, I'm in no rush to figure that one out.
> you don't know that.
I know it as far as I can know something without experiencing it. So we'll all know the truth when we die. As for living beings, during our life is where all the meaning is. Can you choose to believe in god after you die?
> you don't know that, either. you are making huge assumptions. instead, assume God exists. then life is trivial and the afterlife is infinitely meaningful, with respect to duration of time.
If I were to, I'd be assuming a belief based on those who have only lived and not died. Which would open the question: since this life is so trivial, what stops me from choosing to believe in greater meaning after dying where the greater meaning may be anyway? Without dying I will know?
> it should be obvious that you can't prove any of this to be true or false. you're acting like it must all be true unless i can prove it false. but you can't prove it true and your logic is lacking. everything you say rests on an array of assumptions.
and what you're saying lies on a bunch of unknowns about death that is impossibly unverifyable, and infinitely futile except to generate meaning in and during life. What I'm assuming is only the truth, that there is no way to emperically prove that a special kind of meaning is created while a thing is dead, except for those who are living. example: a ton of frogs die and we look at why they died and realize that it's because of the thinning ozone and we make moves to fix the ozone. In the frogs existence beyond life, did it make meaning outside of life?
What is this array of assumptions? And where is the logic lacking?
> and that's your own belief system and value set. other people have differing opinions.
I'm glad, but they all got their beliefs in life, not before or after, including mine.
> a being-in-the-world can easily believe that there is more meaning in God or the afterworldly than in-the-world as such.
Why aren't more religious people ascetics?
Maybe the true meaning is in death, I'm in no rush to figure that one out.
> you don't know that.
I know it as far as I can know something without experiencing it. So we'll all know the truth when we die. As for living beings, during our life is where all the meaning is. Can you choose to believe in god after you die?
> you don't know that, either. you are making huge assumptions. instead, assume God exists. then life is trivial and the afterlife is infinitely meaningful, with respect to duration of time.
If I were to, I'd be assuming a belief based on those who have only lived and not died. Which would open the question: since this life is so trivial, what stops me from choosing to believe in greater meaning after dying where the greater meaning may be anyway? Without dying I will know?
> it should be obvious that you can't prove any of this to be true or false. you're acting like it must all be true unless i can prove it false. but you can't prove it true and your logic is lacking. everything you say rests on an array of assumptions.
and what you're saying lies on a bunch of unknowns about death that is impossibly unverifyable, and infinitely futile except to generate meaning in and during life. What I'm assuming is only the truth, that there is no way to emperically prove that a special kind of meaning is created while a thing is dead, except for those who are living. example: a ton of frogs die and we look at why they died and realize that it's because of the thinning ozone and we make moves to fix the ozone. In the frogs existence beyond life, did it make meaning outside of life?
What is this array of assumptions? And where is the logic lacking?
> and that's your own belief system and value set. other people have differing opinions.
I'm glad, but they all got their beliefs in life, not before or after, including mine.
> a being-in-the-world can easily believe that there is more meaning in God or the afterworldly than in-the-world as such.
Why aren't more religious people ascetics?
(03:53:53) lucas: what should i do with my life?
(03:53:59) dynek: have fun
(03:54:01) wintellect: live it
(03:54:02) dynek: learn new things
(03:54:10) lucas: what else
(03:54:25) dynek: find a good job
(03:54:27) dynek: well paid one
(03:55:30) arun: yep, a well paid one
(03:55:40) arun: money matters
(03:55:49) arun: and have fun
(03:56:18) lucas: okay
(03:56:23) lucas: but how do i decide what to do
(03:56:44) arun: what do you like to do ?
(03:56:53) lucas: good question
(03:56:56) lucas: sometimes i don't know
(03:57:10) arun: welcome to the club then
(03:57:22) lucas: haha
(03:57:23) lucas: cool
(03:53:59) dynek: have fun
(03:54:01) wintellect: live it
(03:54:02) dynek: learn new things
(03:54:10) lucas: what else
(03:54:25) dynek: find a good job
(03:54:27) dynek: well paid one
(03:55:30) arun: yep, a well paid one
(03:55:40) arun: money matters
(03:55:49) arun: and have fun
(03:56:18) lucas: okay
(03:56:23) lucas: but how do i decide what to do
(03:56:44) arun: what do you like to do ?
(03:56:53) lucas: good question
(03:56:56) lucas: sometimes i don't know
(03:57:10) arun: welcome to the club then
(03:57:22) lucas: haha
(03:57:23) lucas: cool
AHHHHHH! *bursts into flames*
That is still the most terrifying thing I've ever seen. Ever. Religion may be misguided, but when shit like that arises it's going TOO FAR.
That is still the most terrifying thing I've ever seen. Ever. Religion may be misguided, but when shit like that arises it's going TOO FAR.
fersure.
i think the kids seizuring on the floor was pretty awesome though.
i think the kids seizuring on the floor was pretty awesome though.
Yeah, it would have been, if they weren't FEELIN' THA LORD-UH!
dude that movie got me so pissed at the evangelicals