i'm seeking recommendations for the best keyboard!
required:
* doesn't have a 9-key input
* has the control key to the left of "a" on the home row
preferred:
* usb
* black
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for example, the happy hacking keyboard.
required:
* doesn't have a 9-key input
* has the control key to the left of "a" on the home row
preferred:
* usb
* black
--
for example, the happy hacking keyboard.
I was going to suggest the Happy Hacking Keyboard. :)
I used to use the Lite2 version, which has arrow keys. It suddenly stopped working, though.
I used to use the Lite2 version, which has arrow keys. It suddenly stopped working, though.
why ps2?
I have an original das keyboard... love it.
> why ps2?
because i think it is more widely supported. i guess usb can be okay (if i can use an adapter for ps/2-only systems). hot-plug would be nice.
because i think it is more widely supported. i guess usb can be okay (if i can use an adapter for ps/2-only systems). hot-plug would be nice.
ok, new qualifications:
* no ten-key
* ctrl on the home row
* usb
* black
damn, i want ctrl on the home row so so bad. i used to have a sun keyboard, and it felt so sweet. <3
seventy-two dollars shipped
* no ten-key
* ctrl on the home row
* usb
* black
damn, i want ctrl on the home row so so bad. i used to have a sun keyboard, and it felt so sweet. <3
seventy-two dollars shipped
$ cat .xmodmap remove Lock = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L add Control = Control_L
http://www.philosophyblog.com.au/userimages/u … 000382.jpg
I can't even find pictures of my rev 1.0 das keyboard online anymore... usb keyboard.
That pic is it... looking for a better shot.... can't find one...
http://techrepublic.com.com/i/tr/one_offs/eri … yboard.jpg
Best I can do.
I love that keyboard. So simple... so classic.
I can't even find pictures of my rev 1.0 das keyboard online anymore... usb keyboard.
That pic is it... looking for a better shot.... can't find one...
http://techrepublic.com.com/i/tr/one_offs/eri … yboard.jpg
Best I can do.
I love that keyboard. So simple... so classic.
So huge. :\
Having the CTRL key on the HomeRow is pretty fuckin' impossible on wintel. Would it be possible for you to remap Caps lock? Also, I like my Dinovo Edge. It's wireless BT though.
I would like this keyboard:
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/i … /id/189771
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/i … /id/189771
@carpet: i have one of those without the 10-key, it's great!
I'm now trying to figure out how to buy a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 with Arabic letters in Germany. (no letters would be even better of course...)
Logitech is not a bitch regarding that: http://www.flickr.com/photos/qubodup/sets/721 … 34/detail/
Logitech is not a bitch regarding that: http://www.flickr.com/photos/qubodup/sets/721 … 34/detail/
here is a black ps2 hhk deal.
That looks great Lucas, I looked at the thinkpad stand-alone keyboard a few months ago, and considered buying it. I didn't mainbly because a) The touchpad, b) Price and c) Some not-so-positive reviews.
This seems to be a good improvement ... I might buy that one ... The M13 has the downside of having only two trackpoint buttons and they often have no Windows keys (I use "windows keys" often for my WM ... At some point in the past I even had little daemon stickers I put over the Windows logo :D)
This seems to be a good improvement ... I might buy that one ... The M13 has the downside of having only two trackpoint buttons and they often have no Windows keys (I use "windows keys" often for my WM ... At some point in the past I even had little daemon stickers I put over the Windows logo :D)
My HHK broke. :\
carpetsmoker: i think it looks great, too. i'll definitely consider it the next time i want to buy a keyboard.
bluet: have any idea how it happened? it is still in warranty?
bluet: have any idea how it happened? it is still in warranty?
> bluet: have any idea how it happened? it is still in warranty?
No idea, one day it wasn't recognised by the computer. I don't know if it's still in warranty. I don't have it anymore.
No idea, one day it wasn't recognised by the computer. I don't know if it's still in warranty. I don't have it anymore.
oh.
filco tenkeyless blue -- $121
pros: blue switches offer tactile feedback and click. no ten-key. usb or ps2. black.
cons: ctrl is not on the home row.
pros: blue switches offer tactile feedback and click. no ten-key. usb or ps2. black.
cons: ctrl is not on the home row.
happy hacking pro 2 -- $254
pros: topre switches are good. no ten-key. usb with hub. gray. ctrl is on the home row.
cons: none?
pros: topre switches are good. no ten-key. usb with hub. gray. ctrl is on the home row.
cons: none?
realforce 87u tenkeyless -- $tba
pros: topre switches are good. no ten-key. usb. black. ctrl/capslock swappable.
cons: none?
pros: topre switches are good. no ten-key. usb. black. ctrl/capslock swappable.
cons: none?
i'm bidding on a black hhkb lite 2 and a white hhkb lite 2.
pretty solid deals. it's the cheapest keyboard with a hardware homerow ctrl key. /o/
pretty solid deals. it's the cheapest keyboard with a hardware homerow ctrl key. /o/
AMBIEN PURCHASES
ok, i'm totally lost on the last post
i take ambien, don't fall asleep, then become frivolous
so i won a black ps2 hhbk lite2 for $29.33 shipped.
from geekhack.com, i've learned that ps/2 is good because it can handle more simultaneous characters than usb. so use ps/2 if you can, but if you only have usb or you need to hot plug, then use a ps/2 to usb adapter.
from geekhack.com, i've learned that ps/2 is good because it can handle more simultaneous characters than usb. so use ps/2 if you can, but if you only have usb or you need to hot plug, then use a ps/2 to usb adapter.
btw, there are always quite a few of these listed by the same seller on ebay for $10 each (see here). if you search the name instead of the acronym, then you don't get the good deals (see here).
i'll report back on product quality and how well packed it was. they shipped quickly.
i'll report back on product quality and how well packed it was. they shipped quickly.
ps/2 is good because it can handle more simultaneous characters than usb
is this ever realistically an issue? I've never even heard it before, which I think is telling.
i don't know.
I recently encountered the issue while playing Dragon Age: Origins.
You can press the TAB key to highlight stuff (Items in the ground etc.), and use the WSAD combination to move.
If you hold TAB for highlight, press W for forward, and then Q for strafe left, then my PC goes *beep* and the Q key does nothing ....
Strangely, the E key for strafe left does work ...
You can press the TAB key to highlight stuff (Items in the ground etc.), and use the WSAD combination to move.
If you hold TAB for highlight, press W for forward, and then Q for strafe left, then my PC goes *beep* and the Q key does nothing ....
Strangely, the E key for strafe left does work ...
ps/2 ftw!
Actually, that is a PS/2 keyboard
sucks
man my thinkpad keyboard is like set to ship dec 14th. why does lenovo take a month just to be able to ship something that requires no customization?
this is why the chinese would never win in a war... their supply chain is fubar.
this is why the chinese would never win in a war... their supply chain is fubar.
Where did you but your TP keyboard? On the Lenovo site?
I don't see it on the Dutch Lenovo Site, only the English, and I don't see it any Dutch shops or wholesale suppliers...
I don't see it on the Dutch Lenovo Site, only the English, and I don't see it any Dutch shops or wholesale suppliers...
lenovo site.
so i got a black ps2 happy hacking lite2 keyboard ($30 shipped).
i like it.
i like it.
nothing beats the thinkpad keyboard for me. I used one at work the other day for a few hours then went back to a new Dell keyboard and wanted to kill myself.
yeah. it's definitely the best keyboard built into a laptop.
it's probably my favorite keyboard I've used including desktop ones. the macbook keyboard is decent but feels kind of cheap. I really like the short travel of laptop keyboards though. I was even pretty quick on the mobilepro keyboard when I got used to it :).
you didn't like your model m?
I liked it but honestly the noise was too annoying to do any serious work on it. and I still like the short travel of laptop keyboards. it makes me feel like I can type faster.
speaking of keyboards, I might buy a MobilePro again because they are cool. I really have no idea what good use I'd have for it, but I was looking at them on eBay and couldn't help myself. similarly, the IBM z50 has a pretty awesome keyboard and is similar to the MobilePro so I was looking at those too. I blame this thread.
speaking of keyboards, I might buy a MobilePro again because they are cool. I really have no idea what good use I'd have for it, but I was looking at them on eBay and couldn't help myself. similarly, the IBM z50 has a pretty awesome keyboard and is similar to the MobilePro so I was looking at those too. I blame this thread.
everything is beautiful, and i blame you
the mobilepro I was bidding on just went for like $140!! geeze. somebody overpaid. I buy it now-ed a z50 for 75 bucks because I'm an idiot.
my mom likes the happy hacking keyboard lite2 (ps/2, black), so i turned on sw3 (which makes the delete key into a backspace key) and gave it to her.
i used to think that keytronic keyboards were good. now i realize that her keyboard sucked (mushy, short throw). it's pretty clean, so i'll sell it on ebay.
i used to think that keytronic keyboards were good. now i realize that her keyboard sucked (mushy, short throw). it's pretty clean, so i'll sell it on ebay.
up for consideration: the cherry ultraslim series!
G86-52400EUADAA -- black, usb, has windows keys, about $70
G84-4100LCAUS-0 -- lt gray, usb, no windows keys, about $70
G84-4100PTAUS -- black, usb, no windows keys, about $70
G86-52400EUADAA -- black, usb, has windows keys, about $70
G84-4100LCAUS-0 -- lt gray, usb, no windows keys, about $70
G84-4100PTAUS -- black, usb, no windows keys, about $70
I <3 my Kinesis Ergo in Dvorak setup.
Funny story: it's an oooooold AT keyboard, connected to an AT/PS2 adapter, connected to a USB KVM. :D
Funny story: it's an oooooold AT keyboard, connected to an AT/PS2 adapter, connected to a USB KVM. :D
Damn, I seriously want that thinkpad keyboard, yet it is still available only the the US ... :(
I don't know if bank transfers are easy to the US, but I can pay with paypal ...
email if interested: carpetsmoker@rwxrwxrwx.net
I don't know if bank transfers are easy to the US, but I can pay with paypal ...
email if interested: carpetsmoker@rwxrwxrwx.net
i think my realforce 103 u-uw comes tomorrow...
nothing beats the thinkpad keyboard. but I haven't tried any of these expensive ones. I probably don't type enough to justify buying one.
you've used the ibm mini you gave me. you didn't like it more?
I never really used it extensively. just for quick system administration stuff.
the mailroom at my office didn't know how to deal with the duty on the realforce. i'm getting it tomorrow.
it's REAL nice.
i need to figure out how to make the key stoppers work. i hate f1 / f3 keys.
i need to figure out how to make the key stoppers work. i hate f1 / f3 keys.
got the stoppers working!
are you in love?
The key stroke feeling of HHKB is a sense to which it walks on the wood floor.
The key stroke feeling of realforce is a sense to which it walks on the marble with leather shoes.
-- japanese youtube user "section6nakamura"
The key stroke feeling of realforce is a sense to which it walks on the marble with leather shoes.
-- japanese youtube user "section6nakamura"
I love wood floors.
it's odd... they have the same switch
HHKB Pro?
yes.
The spill-resistant feature of my thinkpad keyboard has been tested.
It works :)
It works :)
i tested mine
it didn't work too well (i was praying for a week while it sat in a bag of rice)
it didn't work too well (i was praying for a week while it sat in a bag of rice)
:-(
I really need to take all the keys off of my thinkpad and clean it. there's so much food and hair and probably like a bowl's worth of weed in here.
it's not. a free keyboard would have been nice.
it's a macbook, huh
because i have a spare x200s keyboard
because i have a spare x200s keyboard
nah, x301.
oh. i think i missed something.
*mega bump*
I stand by this statement: The Sun Type 5 (not 5c) is the greatest keyboard ever.
I mean look at it
If only the Type 7 maintained the correct Control positioning (and Esc, and grave, et al), then I'd have a worthy USB keyboard.
I stand by this statement: The Sun Type 5 (not 5c) is the greatest keyboard ever.
I mean look at it
If only the Type 7 maintained the correct Control positioning (and Esc, and grave, et al), then I'd have a worthy USB keyboard.
yeah, that's really the keyboard for the keyboard user, especially on unix-like oses.
And on Sun machines, that power key on the kbd is an actual power key. It uses this weird 8-pin mini-DIN and RS/232 protocol to communicate so it has similar capabilities to a full terminal.
If I get one, an Arduino Nano would probably work well for a Sun->PS/2(or USB, I guess) converter. Thing requires two separate +5V sources (pins 3 & 8) so it can also power a Sun mouse from the keyboard rather than the workstation.
Idk, I think they're cool as hell.
If I get one, an Arduino Nano would probably work well for a Sun->PS/2(or USB, I guess) converter. Thing requires two separate +5V sources (pins 3 & 8) so it can also power a Sun mouse from the keyboard rather than the workstation.
Idk, I think they're cool as hell.
re: keyboards I've been fucking around with mechanical switches and custom keyboards recently and have built a couple. my second one is a 60% keyboard using the dz60 pcb with mx blue switches and a 2u left shift layout. so no right shift, but I was able to cram in some arrow keys. I'm loving it. here's a reddit thread with some pics: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/ … u_frosted/
I made a custom keyboard pcb. pcb design and tweaking keyboard layouts is very addictive. https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/ … yout_with/
dope!
yeah, seems like a fun hobby!
also: i recently bumped into an old friend/teacher online who said he has this keyboard hacking shop
yeah, seems like a fun hobby!
also: i recently bumped into an old friend/teacher online who said he has this keyboard hacking shop
oh, also, asemi: do you have soldering burns on your cutting board? i do. :( also, i warped it by putting a hot pot on it (on top of a towel) and now it won't quite sit flat :(
I somehow only have one soldering burn/hole on mine. I really need to set up a separate workspace for soldering/other projects. right now I just use the same desk that has like my monitor and stuff on it and I end up making a huge mess and then just never using the desk for actually working at. I did figure out today that the new keyboard fits perfectly over my macbook's keyboard without pressing down any keys so I used it for working from the couch today lol.